From left, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and former biotech executive Vivek Ramaswamy talk over each other at the debate. Reuters
From left, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and former biotech executive Vivek Ramaswamy talk over each other at the debate. Reuters
From left, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and former biotech executive Vivek Ramaswamy talk over each other at the debate. Reuters
From left, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and former biotech executive Vivek Ramaswamy talk over each other at the debate. Reuters


Who won the second Republican presidential debate?


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September 28, 2023

The two-hour debate between seven non-Donald Trump candidates hoping to win the Republican Party's nomination to run for president was a bitter and personal affair, with insults traded on the stage and plenty of barbs for the conspicuously absent former president.

But it was clear early on it would be impossible for an obvious “winner” to emerge on the stage at Wednesday night's slugfest, thanks to a chaotic format in which three moderators were unable to control the squabbling candidates as they spoke over one another and insisted on answering questions even when it was not their turn to speak.

Mr Trump's decision to skip the second Republican debate, as he did the first, was a good one. Staying away from the bickering pack of rivals, all of whom trail him by at least 40 points in opinion polls, only burnished his primacy and left would-be contenders fighting for scraps, perhaps a place in Mr Trump's cabinet should he win next year.

The nature of the debate, with the candidates each standing behind their own podium, left them appearing desperate to leave a mark in what seemed more like a callow popularity contest than a serious platform for candidates interviewing for the world's most powerful job.

“Honestly, every time I hear you I feel a little bit dumber from what you say,” former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley told biotech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy after he gave an incoherent answer about whether he would ban TikTok, having just joined the China-owned platform after having dinner with boxer and influencer Jake Paul.

Ms Haley took some jabs, too, including an attack from Tim Scott, a senator from South Carolina, who falsely accused her of spending $50,000 in taxpayers' money to buy curtains for her office when she was ambassador to the UN. It could have been a big deal if it were true (the curtains had actually been ordered under the Obama administration) and it weakened Mr Scott's performance on a night that otherwise gave him some good moments including his comments on slavery.

Unlike in the first debate, the candidates this time were more eager to take on Mr Trump, with several attacking him for failing to come to the debate. The first time round, all but two of what were then eight candidates raised their hands in a grovelling show of fealty when asked if they would still support Mr Trump if he wins the nomination, even if he were convicted of crimes.

“You're afraid of being on this stage and defending your record,” former New Jersey governor Chris Christie said, one of the two candidates who refused to bend the knee to Mr Trump.

“You keep doing that, nobody up here's going to keep calling you Donald Trump, we're gonna call you Donald Duck.”

Chris Christie said an absent Donald Trump could be called 'Donald Duck' because he keeps ducking out of debates. Reuters
Chris Christie said an absent Donald Trump could be called 'Donald Duck' because he keeps ducking out of debates. Reuters

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who rode to power thanks largely to riding on Mr Trump's coattails, had a dreadful night. He, too, called out Mr Trump for failing to attend but was mute for the first 16 minutes of the debate and soon reverted to his culture war rhetoric that seeks to demonise minority groups. The combative governor was once seen as a real threat to Mr Trump, but his disastrously run campaign and school-bully charisma have sent him ever lower in the polls.

And pity Mike Pence, the former vice president who said he would support Mr Trump, even though his boss has attacked him for having the temerity to certify Joe Biden as President on January 6, 2021 while a mob of Trump partisans attacked Congress.

His folksy persona might once have wooed conservative voters alongside the unpredictable Mr Trump, but he has fallen flat in today's MAGA world where there can only be one volume: yelling.

In an awkward attempt at charm, he answered a question about education by talking about his wife, a former teacher.

“I've got to admit, I’ve been sleeping with a teacher for 38 years,” he said.

As for North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum, who currently is polling at around 1 per cent, he answered a question about stopping mass shootings by attacking people who want gun control. Why on Earth was he even on the stage in the first place? If only organisers had winnowed the event down to three or four candidates, then the debate could have actually included some debate, instead of theatrics and shouting.

Mr Trump, meanwhile, was busy going over his usual grievances at a car plant outside Detroit. He hardly spoke of his rivals, mentioning them only as “job candidates” for a second Trump administration and suggesting none of them would be his pick for vice president running mate.

“Does anybody see a VP in the group? I don’t know,” he said.

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RESULT

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Man United: Sanchez (24' ), Herrera (62')
Spurs: Alli (11')

WOMAN AND CHILD

Director: Saeed Roustaee

Starring: Parinaz Izadyar, Payman Maadi

Rating: 4/5

At a glance

Global events: Much of the UK’s economic woes were blamed on “increased global uncertainty”, which can be interpreted as the economic impact of the Ukraine war and the uncertainty over Donald Trump’s tariffs.

 

Growth forecasts: Cut for 2025 from 2 per cent to 1 per cent. The OBR watchdog also estimated inflation will average 3.2 per cent this year

 

Welfare: Universal credit health element cut by 50 per cent and frozen for new claimants, building on cuts to the disability and incapacity bill set out earlier this month

 

Spending cuts: Overall day-to day-spending across government cut by £6.1bn in 2029-30 

 

Tax evasion: Steps to crack down on tax evasion to raise “£6.5bn per year” for the public purse

 

Defence: New high-tech weaponry, upgrading HM Naval Base in Portsmouth

 

Housing: Housebuilding to reach its highest in 40 years, with planning reforms helping generate an extra £3.4bn for public finances

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Fast facts on Neil Armstrong’s personal life:

  • Armstrong was born on August 5, 1930, in Wapakoneta, Ohio
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  • There was tragedy in his married life: Neil and Janet Armstrong’s daughter Karen died at the age of two in 1962 after suffering a brain tumour. She was the couple’s only daughter. Their two sons, Rick and Mark, consulted on the film
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  • In 1994, Janet divorced Neil after 38 years of marriage. Two years earlier, Neil met Carol Knight, who became his second wife in 1994 
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What is myofascial pain syndrome?

Myofascial pain syndrome refers to pain and inflammation in the body’s soft tissue. MPS is a chronic condition that affects the fascia (­connective tissue that covers the muscles, which develops knots, also known as trigger points).

What are trigger points?

Trigger points are irritable knots in the soft ­tissue that covers muscle tissue. Through injury or overuse, muscle fibres contract as a reactive and protective measure, creating tension in the form of hard and, palpable nodules. Overuse and ­sustained posture are the main culprits in developing ­trigger points.

What is myofascial or trigger-point release?

Releasing these nodules requires a hands-on technique that involves applying gentle ­sustained pressure to release muscular shortness and tightness. This eliminates restrictions in ­connective tissue in orderto restore motion and alleviate pain. ­Therapy balls have proven effective at causing enough commotion in the tissue, prompting the release of these hard knots.

The alternatives

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• Business Bay’s Pallapay claims 40,000-plus active merchants who can invoice customers and receive payment by card. Fees range from 1.99 per cent plus Dh1 per transaction depending on payment method and location, such as online or via UAE mobile.

• Tap started in May 2013 in Kuwait, allowing Middle East businesses to bill, accept, receive and make payments online “easier, faster and smoother” via goSell and goCollect. It supports more than 10,000 merchants. Monthly fees range from US$65-100, plus card charges of 2.75-3.75 per cent and Dh1.2 per sale.

2checkout’s “all-in-one payment gateway and merchant account” accepts payments in 200-plus markets for 2.4-3.9 per cent, plus a Dh1.2-Dh1.8 currency conversion charge. The US provider processes online shop and mobile transactions and has 17,000-plus active digital commerce users.

• PayPal is probably the best-known online goods payment method - usually used for eBay purchases -  but can be used to receive funds, providing everyone’s signed up. Costs from 2.9 per cent plus Dh1.2 per transaction.

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Four motivational quotes from Alicia's Dubai talk

“The only thing we need is to know that we have faith. Faith and hope in our own dreams. The belief that, when we keep going we’re going to find our way. That’s all we got.”

“Sometimes we try so hard to keep things inside. We try so hard to pretend it’s not really bothering us. In some ways, that hurts us more. You don’t realise how dishonest you are with yourself sometimes, but I realised that if I spoke it, I could let it go.”

“One good thing is to know you’re not the only one going through it. You’re not the only one trying to find your way, trying to find yourself, trying to find amazing energy, trying to find a light. Show all of yourself. Show every nuance. All of your magic. All of your colours. Be true to that. You can be unafraid.”

“It’s time to stop holding back. It’s time to do it on your terms. It’s time to shine in the most unbelievable way. It’s time to let go of negativity and find your tribe, find those people that lift you up, because everybody else is just in your way.”

Sukuk explained

Sukuk are Sharia-compliant financial certificates issued by governments, corporates and other entities. While as an asset class they resemble conventional bonds, there are some significant differences. As interest is prohibited under Sharia, sukuk must contain an underlying transaction, for example a leaseback agreement, and the income that is paid to investors is generated by the underlying asset. Investors must also be prepared to share in both the profits and losses of an enterprise. Nevertheless, sukuk are similar to conventional bonds in that they provide regular payments, and are considered less risky than equities. Most investors would not buy sukuk directly due to high minimum subscriptions, but invest via funds.

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Electric scooters: some rules to remember
  • Riders must be 14-years-old or over
  • Wear a protective helmet
  • Park the electric scooter in designated parking lots (if any)
  • Do not leave electric scooter in locations that obstruct traffic or pedestrians
  • Solo riders only, no passengers allowed
  • Do not drive outside designated lanes
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Croatia 1 (Vlasic 09')

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Best Foreign Language Film nominees

Capernaum (Lebanon)

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Never Look Away (Germany)

Roma (Mexico)

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Dr Afridi's warning signs of digital addiction

Spending an excessive amount of time on the phone.

Neglecting personal, social, or academic responsibilities.

Losing interest in other activities or hobbies that were once enjoyed.

Having withdrawal symptoms like feeling anxious, restless, or upset when the technology is not available.

Experiencing sleep disturbances or changes in sleep patterns.

What are the guidelines?

Under 18 months: Avoid screen time altogether, except for video chatting with family.

Aged 18-24 months: If screens are introduced, it should be high-quality content watched with a caregiver to help the child understand what they are seeing.

Aged 2-5 years: Limit to one-hour per day of high-quality programming, with co-viewing whenever possible.

Aged 6-12 years: Set consistent limits on screen time to ensure it does not interfere with sleep, physical activity, or social interactions.

Teenagers: Encourage a balanced approach – screens should not replace sleep, exercise, or face-to-face socialisation.

Source: American Paediatric Association
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