Mathilde Laurent, Cartier’s perfumer. Courtesy Gerard Uferas / Cartier
Mathilde Laurent, Cartier’s perfumer. Courtesy Gerard Uferas / Cartier
Mathilde Laurent, Cartier’s perfumer. Courtesy Gerard Uferas / Cartier
Mathilde Laurent, Cartier’s perfumer. Courtesy Gerard Uferas / Cartier

Cartier in-house perfumer Mathilde Laurent: 'People don’t know what they want, and they don’t know what they like'


Selina Denman
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She may be the in-house perfumer for a brand that is the epitome of Frenchness, but Mathilde Laurent, the creative force behind Cartier Parfums, has long been a champion of ingredients that are not part of mainstream European perfumery. Last year, Cartier launched Les Heures Voyageuses, a range of six fragrances that celebrate oud, combining it with other traditionally Oriental ingredients such as rose, sandalwood, jasmine and ginger. We spoke to the outspoken ‘nose’ about the state of the fragrance industry, how brands need to be braver, and why you will never catch her wearing perfume.

Would you say that perfumery in Europe has become too safe? Is there an unwillingness to experiment?

Yes. It is a problem when an art is turned into caricature. Nowadays, perfumery is a kind of caricature of itself. Vanilla is not the only ingredient that exists. Neither is caramel. I think it causes real damage and is a real pity when it feels like everything smells of either fruit or vanilla or caramel.

Who should be responsible for changing the status quo? Brands or consumers?

People don’t know what they want, and they don’t know what they like. I’m not saying that people are fools; I’m just saying that people like what they like, and wear what they wear, but if you offer a surprise, something that is new and something they have never smelt before, they will turn around and say how happy they are. They will say they wanted something different but couldn’t find it.

Will you continue to use oud?

I think oud has really brought something healthier to this industry because it has changed the idea of perfumery. It creates variation in terms of smells and that is very important. I think there are many, many things to invent with oud, so I would be happy to play with it again.

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When did you first fall in love with perfumery?

It is so difficult to say. Maybe it was when I was six and I smelled Mitsouko (the 1919 fragrance by Guerlain) for the first time. But I didn’t consciously fall in love with fragrances. At the age of six, you just smell something and put it in your mind and you don’t realise that it stays there for tens and tens of years. Nearly 40 years later, and I can still smell that smell now.

Do you have favourite notes?

I am very open. I think that if you have favourite notes, you always end up creating the same perfume. So each time I create a fragrance, I try to find the right ingredients for that specific fragrance, with no thought to the ones I prefer.

What sets Cartier fragrances apart?

I would like to think that when people come to a Cartier fragrance, they can be sure that they will get a never-smelt-before creation and, at the same time, they will be sure that they have the most elegance possible.

What does elegance mean, in the context of perfumery?

It means that you are not vulgar, you are not too powerful, you are not too vanilla, you are not smelling like everybody else and you are so chic. You have that chicness of French perfumery but at the same time, you have something that nobody has smelled before.

What fragrances do you wear?

I wear no fragrance. It is impossible to wear a fragrance when you are working on a fragrance. It is as if you are cooking a meal and want to taste what you are cooking, and at the same time you are eating a strawberry cake. Or, as I often say, you wouldn’t choose the colour of your new bedroom while wearing multi-coloured sunglasses.

How would you like to see the fragrance industry evolving?

I would like this industry to be more honest and more pedagogic. I would like us to teach people about what perfumery is, what is quality, and what is the difference between synthetic and natural ingredients, because there have been too many lies in this industry. There are so many ingredients to talk about; so many molecules that we can talk about. This industry must understand that it must be more than just an industry. We are talking about art.

So you would define perfumery as an art rather than a science?

For sure. I learnt chemistry and physics and biology at university, so I can tell you that perfumery is not a science.

The smuggler

Eldarir had arrived at JFK in January 2020 with three suitcases, containing goods he valued at $300, when he was directed to a search area.
Officers found 41 gold artefacts among the bags, including amulets from a funerary set which prepared the deceased for the afterlife.
Also found was a cartouche of a Ptolemaic king on a relief that was originally part of a royal building or temple. 
The largest single group of items found in Eldarir’s cases were 400 shabtis, or figurines.

Khouli conviction

Khouli smuggled items into the US by making false declarations to customs about the country of origin and value of the items.
According to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, he provided “false provenances which stated that [two] Egyptian antiquities were part of a collection assembled by Khouli's father in Israel in the 1960s” when in fact “Khouli acquired the Egyptian antiquities from other dealers”.
He was sentenced to one year of probation, six months of home confinement and 200 hours of community service in 2012 after admitting buying and smuggling Egyptian antiquities, including coffins, funerary boats and limestone figures.

For sale

A number of other items said to come from the collection of Ezeldeen Taha Eldarir are currently or recently for sale.
Their provenance is described in near identical terms as the British Museum shabti: bought from Salahaddin Sirmali, "authenticated and appraised" by Hossen Rashed, then imported to the US in 1948.

- An Egyptian Mummy mask dating from 700BC-30BC, is on offer for £11,807 ($15,275) online by a seller in Mexico

- A coffin lid dating back to 664BC-332BC was offered for sale by a Colorado-based art dealer, with a starting price of $65,000

- A shabti that was on sale through a Chicago-based coin dealer, dating from 1567BC-1085BC, is up for $1,950

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